30 Dec
2004
30 Dec
'04
3:45 p.m.
Hello all!
I just wanted to now: How do you use Linux?
Do you have it installed on your personal computer?
Wich distribution do you use? Why?
Have you tried other distributions?
And perhaps: how long do you use Linux?
thank you.
pierre
My answer:
I have a dual boot XP-Mandrake 10.1 on my PC. Just bought the Mandrake
10.1 DVD, a few months ago. and i'm very satisfied with it.
I'm on Linux for about 2.5 years. and i never used an other distribution
than mandrake. And i don't plan to use a other in a close future.
30 Dec
30 Dec
4:20 p.m.
Hi,
before starting, a preemtive remark:
all I say herein is my personal opinion, I'm not interested in
starting flamewars, i.e. no need to have huge discussions about
this.
On Thu, Dec 30, 2004 at 04:45:18PM +0100, pierre wrote:
Hello all!
I just wanted to now: How do you use Linux?
Both desktop and server, i.e. all tasks.
Do you have it installed on your personal computer?
Yes, on most of them (exception being one machine - a DEC3000 - that's
not supported by Linux, where I run OpenBSD instead). There's also one
box with a dual-boot system, but that other (evil) OS wasn't booted in
ages.
Wich distribution do you use? Why?
I mostly use Debian GNU/Linux. I also used Slackware (my first, back
in 1995), SuSE (yup, I was a beginner too for a while), RedHat (still
used @work, because some software is only certified for that), IPCop
(nice little distro for routers), Gentoo (excellent packaging system),
Knoppix (rescue and demo system), and probably a few more that I
forget right now.
I settled on Debian because it's well supported (ok, commercial
support may be lacking, but I don't need much of that anyway), has
a good packaging system (seriously better than the RPM-based systems
I know about, such as SuSE, RedHat, Mandrake, but surpassed IMHO by
Gentoo's portage), has different flavours for different needs (stable
for servers, unstable for cutting edge, and testing in the middle for
stable-enough-but-not-totally-out-of-date systems), and a clear
philosophy.
For the record: I've used and use a few other operating systems as
well, such as the different DOS and Windows versions, OS/2, VMS (ok,
only a little), HP/UX, Solaris, IRIX, TOS (the good ol' Atari ST),
MacOS, FreeBSD, ...
Have you tried other distributions?
See above.
And perhaps: how long do you use Linux?
See above (since 1995, i.e. almost 10 years now).
thank you.
You're welcome.
Nice survey subject by the way - Pascal, maybe the results would be
something to write up & put onto the LiLux site?
pierre
My answer:
I have a dual boot XP-Mandrake 10.1 on my PC. Just bought the Mandrake
10.1 DVD, a few months ago. and i'm very satisfied with it.
I'm on Linux for about 2.5 years. and i never used an other distribution
than mandrake. And i don't plan to use a other in a close future.
So that's mainly desktop usage, I suppose?
Greetings, Eric
5:28 p.m.
Thank you, for your opinion and I will not make any comment on it.
I just wanted to know if "Lilux-People" make the same Linux usage as I,
and so if Lilux was the right place for me ;). Ok it seems so.
Yes I use Linux as my mainly OS. The only purpose for using Windows
from time to time is gaming, that's all.
I have no special programming skills, I am only able to solve most
Linux problems that I can ecounter on my PC, if not, I can ask help ;)
In the last months, I am making some experiments with php, c++, apache,
but only for my personnal usage (as pastime), and it remains very basic.
Thank you
Best regards
pierre
Le jeudi 30 décembre 2004 à 17:20 +0100, Eric Dondelinger a écrit :
Hi,
before starting, a preemtive remark:
all I say herein is my personal opinion, I'm not interested in
starting flamewars, i.e. no need to have huge discussions about
this.
On Thu, Dec 30, 2004 at 04:45:18PM +0100, pierre wrote:
Hello all!
I just wanted to now: How do you use Linux?
Both desktop and server, i.e. all tasks.
Do you have it installed on your personal
computer?
Yes, on most of them (exception being one machine - a DEC3000 - that's
not supported by Linux, where I run OpenBSD instead). There's also one
box with a dual-boot system, but that other (evil) OS wasn't booted in
ages.
Wich distribution do you use? Why?
I mostly use Debian GNU/Linux. I also used Slackware (my first, back
in 1995), SuSE (yup, I was a beginner too for a while), RedHat (still
used @work, because some software is only certified for that), IPCop
(nice little distro for routers), Gentoo (excellent packaging system),
Knoppix (rescue and demo system), and probably a few more that I
forget right now.
I settled on Debian because it's well supported (ok, commercial
support may be lacking, but I don't need much of that anyway), has
a good packaging system (seriously better than the RPM-based systems
I know about, such as SuSE, RedHat, Mandrake, but surpassed IMHO by
Gentoo's portage), has different flavours for different needs (stable
for servers, unstable for cutting edge, and testing in the middle for
stable-enough-but-not-totally-out-of-date systems), and a clear
philosophy.
For the record: I've used and use a few other operating systems as
well, such as the different DOS and Windows versions, OS/2, VMS (ok,
only a little), HP/UX, Solaris, IRIX, TOS (the good ol' Atari ST),
MacOS, FreeBSD, ...
Have you tried other distributions?
See above.
And perhaps: how long do you use Linux?
See above (since 1995, i.e. almost 10 years now).
thank you.
You're welcome.
Nice survey subject by the way - Pascal, maybe the results would be
something to write up & put onto the LiLux site?
pierre
My answer:
I have a dual boot XP-Mandrake 10.1 on my PC. Just bought the Mandrake
10.1 DVD, a few months ago. and i'm very satisfied with it.
I'm on Linux for about 2.5 years. and i never used an other distribution
than mandrake. And i don't plan to use a other in a close future.
So that's mainly desktop usage, I suppose?
Greetings, Eric 
9:50 p.m.
I also mainly use GNU/Linux systems at home as well at work, all debian
based : Knoppix, Moprhix, pure debian, and Ubuntu i got at work at the
moment, looks really nice but has some child-diseases yet ;)
A similar track already went thru this list, the result can be see on :
http://www.linux.lu/wiki/index.php/DistroMatrix
So maybe we can complete this a bit ...
ciao,
pst
Hi,
before starting, a preemtive remark:
all I say herein is my personal opinion, I'm not interested in
starting flamewars, i.e. no need to have huge discussions about
this.
On Thu, Dec 30, 2004 at 04:45:18PM +0100, pierre wrote:
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Hello all!
I just wanted to now: How do you use Linux?
Both desktop and server, i.e. all tasks.
Do you have it installed on your personal
computer?
Yes, on most of them (exception being one machine - a DEC3000 - that's
not supported by Linux, where I run OpenBSD instead). There's also one
box with a dual-boot system, but that other (evil) OS wasn't booted in
ages.
Wich distribution do you use? Why?
I mostly use Debian GNU/Linux. I also used Slackware (my first, back
in 1995), SuSE (yup, I was a beginner too for a while), RedHat (still
used @work, because some software is only certified for that), IPCop
(nice little distro for routers), Gentoo (excellent packaging system),
Knoppix (rescue and demo system), and probably a few more that I
forget right now.
I settled on Debian because it's well supported (ok, commercial
support may be lacking, but I don't need much of that anyway), has
a good packaging system (seriously better than the RPM-based systems
I know about, such as SuSE, RedHat, Mandrake, but surpassed IMHO by
Gentoo's portage), has different flavours for different needs (stable
for servers, unstable for cutting edge, and testing in the middle for
stable-enough-but-not-totally-out-of-date systems), and a clear
philosophy.
For the record: I've used and use a few other operating systems as
well, such as the different DOS and Windows versions, OS/2, VMS (ok,
only a little), HP/UX, Solaris, IRIX, TOS (the good ol' Atari ST),
MacOS, FreeBSD, ...
Have you tried other distributions?
See above.
And perhaps: how long do you use Linux?
See above (since 1995, i.e. almost 10 years now).
thank you.
You're welcome.
Nice survey subject by the way - Pascal, maybe the results would be
something to write up & put onto the LiLux site?
pierre
My answer:
I have a dual boot XP-Mandrake 10.1 on my PC. Just bought the Mandrake
10.1 DVD, a few months ago. and i'm very satisfied with it.
I'm on Linux for about 2.5 years. and i never used an other distribution
than mandrake. And i don't plan to use a other in a close future.
So that's mainly desktop usage, I suppose?
Greetings, Eric
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5:09 p.m.
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pierre wrote:
| Hello all!
| I just wanted to now: How do you use Linux?
|
By booting a Knoppix CD and getting convinced first.
http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/
| Do you have it installed on your personal computer?
| Wich distribution do you use? Why?
|
Gentoo, because I use FreeBSD mainly.
http://www.gentoo.org/
| Have you tried other distributions?
|
FreeBSD because it rocks.
http://www.freebsd.org/
| And perhaps: how long do you use Linux?
|
Hmm, since 2.0.30 so approx:
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/
[ ] linux-2.0.30.tar.gz 08-Apr-1997 09:34 5.9M
| thank you.
|
So there,
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6:37 p.m.
pierre wrote:
Hello all!
I just wanted to now: How do you use Linux?
At home, for about everything. Windows
is only used for Palm
synchronisation and for one website I used for financial transactions. I
boot Windows at most once per week for a few minutes.
Do you have it installed on your personal computer?
Wich distribution do you use? Why?
Workstation: dual boot Slackware / Windows XP
Server: dual boot SuSE / Windows XP
For explanation, see http://www.homepages.lu/pu/slackware.html.
Have you tried other distributions?
Tried (and
dismissed for now) Debian, Gentoo and FreeBSD. Keeping an eye
on Gentoo and NetBSD.
And perhaps: how long do you use Linux?
About a
year or so.
BTW, I asked the same question myself some time ago, here are the
results: http://www.linux.lu/wiki/index.php/DistroMatrix
Regards,
-pu
6:56 p.m.
Le jeudi 30 Décembre 2004 16:45, pierre a écrit :
Hello all!
I just wanted to now: How do you use Linux?
for desktop with an apache/php/mysql
server
Do you have it installed on your personal computer?
Wich distribution do you use? Why?
dual boot WinXP/MandrakeLinux 10.1
Because I like it, I can do everything i need to do on my PC (exect games), the community
of users
is very active and that's the distro that made me learn Linux.
Have you tried other distributions?
Suse, Knoppix, Mandrake Move
I think Suse 9.2 has a better look than Mdk 10.1, and Yast is very very good.
But, from my point of vue, MandrakeLinux is still a little bit ahead regarding hardware
detection,
and Suse's french translation is not very good. No flames please :-)
And perhaps: how long do you use Linux?
4 years
I really would like Suse/Novell to buy MandrakeSoft, to make the ever world's best
Linux Desktop, with improved docs and support.
thank you.
pierre
My answer:
I have a dual boot XP-Mandrake 10.1 on my PC. Just bought the Mandrake
10.1 DVD, a few months ago. and i'm very satisfied with it.
I'm on Linux for about 2.5 years. and i never used an other distribution
than mandrake. And i don't plan to use a other in a close future.
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7:22 p.m.
Hello all!
Hello :)
I just wanted to now: How do you use Linux?
Do you have it installed on your personal computer?
Dualboot FC3/WinXP
Gateway FC3
Wich distribution do you use? Why?
Currently, I use FC3, because it is, I think, the mostly used distrib in
the workplace.
I tried several other distros:
- Gentoo, because you can fine-tune it till you love it.
- Knoppix, because out of the box, it immediately rocks.
- Suse 9.1, work reason
Once, I tried Mandrake 8.0 and debian, don't know why, I didn't hook up.
I also gave a shot at LFS and actually was a little bit disapointed with
the result but still learned some stuff.
Have you tried other distributions?
See above.
And perhaps: how long do you use Linux?
Linux for let's say hm 4-5 years.
Before I used NetBSD 1.5.2 and FreeBSD 4.4
Paulo
Happy new year ;)
thank you.
pierre
My answer:
I have a dual boot XP-Mandrake 10.1 on my PC. Just bought the Mandrake
10.1 DVD, a few months ago. and i'm very satisfied with it.
I'm on Linux for about 2.5 years. and i never used an other distribution
than mandrake. And i don't plan to use a other in a close future.
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8:27 p.m.
On Thursday 30 December 2004 16:45, pierre wrote:
Hello all!
I just wanted to now: How do you use Linux?
For all tasks:
desktop: web browsing, mail, LaTeX, online banking, development, ...
server: apache/php, sendmail/mailman, dns, samba, ..., cf LLL
I very rarely boot into windows (mostly for testing LLL system), and
when I do, it's most often in a vmware/qemu environment...
Do you have it installed on your personal computer?
I've got Linux installed:
1. On my desktop at home
2. On my desktop at work
3. On my laptop
Wich distribution do you use?
1. My home desktop and my laptop have SuSE 9.2,
2. At work I use Fedora Core II.
3. I've got a Knoppix CD for demo'ing purposes or for use on computers
which do not yet have Linux installed.
Why?
SuSE ==> as a kernel developer, I regularly got free installation CD's
from SuSE. At the time, SuSE had a packaging structure which was very
similar to the distribution I used before (SLS), and was very complete
(for a long time, SuSE had the biggest collection of applications).
Some of this is no longer true (package format, ...), but in the
meantime, I've become so familiar with it that I stuck with it (for
my home systems).
Fedora/Redhat ==> is the distribution that my employer recommends
Knoppix ==> is the best known "live CD" distribution, and, AFAIK,
supports more hardware than SuSE's and RedHat's Live CDs.
Have you tried other distributions?
I've occasionnally experimented with Mandrake, however these
experiments didn't leave a favorable impression (unreliability due to
inclusion of alpha/beta software, sometimes excessive KDE
customization). I must admit, though, that these unfavorable
impressions were some time ago, so maybe they've improved with their
more recent versions.
Before knowing SuSE, I used SLS ("Softlanding Systems") which is the
predecessor of Slackware.
And perhaps: how long do you use Linux?
Since January 1993.
thank you.
pierre
My answer:
I have a dual boot XP-Mandrake 10.1 on my PC. Just bought the Mandrake
10.1 DVD, a few months ago. and i'm very satisfied with it.
I'm on Linux for about 2.5 years. and i never used an other distribution
than mandrake. And i don't plan to use a other in a close future.
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9:36 p.m.
pierre wrote:
Hello all!
I just wanted to now: How do you use Linux?
Shell: bash, (also like tcsh)
Window Manager: icewm, (also like window maker)
File Manager (&Desktop): ROX http://rox.sourceforge.net , very speedy!
Programming Language: C
Script Language: bash, gawk
Graphical Tools: xv, xpaint, bitmap, gimp
Vector Graphical Tool: xfig
Text Processing: LaTeX (yes, still better than all the WYSIWYG)
Text Editor: nedit, (also like scite)
vi derivative: elvis
WWW Browser: mozilla, dillo (very speedy!!!)
Mail Client: mozilla
Small Database: grok
Calendar: plan
Do you have it installed on your personal computer?
Yes.
Wich distribution do you use? Why?
For completeness, I list al Un*x OSes, even non Linux ones:
At Work:
--------
* RedHat Enterprise Linux (versions 2.1 & 3.0): installed on all Oracle
Linux systems
* RedHat 7.3: installed on non database servers
* Slackware 9.1/10.0: installed on non database servers (reasons:
security, minimalist approach, end of consumer RedHat)
* AIX (versions 4.3.3, 5.1, 5.2): on bigger (and expensive) systems and
high availability systems
At Home:
--------
* Slackware 10.0: on my main PC
* Yellow Dog 3.0.1: RedHat/Fedora based distro for Apple computers:
installed on my iBook (Slackware doens't run on Apple if you overlook
Slackintosh)
* MacOS X: nice BSD based OS with a nice object oriented framework
derived from NextStep (source compatible with GNUstep!!!). Also runs
apps like Gimp, etc. if you install X
* RedHat 9.0: installed on my girlfriend's PC, mainly because of the
same look of Gnome & KDE apps (Bluecurve) und the similarity with Yellow
Dog I have on the laptop
* NetBSD 1.6: installed on my SparcClassic serving as a firewall
* Solaris 8: installed on my SparcStation 5 to have a machine to learn
and hack with Solaris (wonderful OS in his own right)
Also installed on my main PC on other partitions: OpenBSD 3.5, Solaris 8
x86, FreeBSD
Have you tried other distributions?
Yes: SuSE, Debian, Knoppix and JDS
And perhaps: how long do you use Linux?
October 1994, when I bought my first Slackware CDs from InfoMagick.
Greetings, Patrick Kaell
31 Dec
31 Dec
12:01 a.m.
On Thu, 2004-12-30 at 16:45 +0100, pierre wrote:
Hello all!
I just wanted to now: How do you use Linux?
Hye,
Installed on a desktop PC and a laptop.
I use it as often as possible: mail, office tasks, ssh, internet,
digital photographie, web pages, radio stream, ... everything.
Also used on servers with the "LLL-distribution" installed.
I sometimers use Windows XP with special software, for which I didnt
find a Linux equivalent yet, as "Arles Webpage Image Creator" for
example.
Do you have it installed on your personal computer?
Wich distribution do you use? Why?
I have it installed on a personal Desktop, a personal laptop
and 2 servers in Primary Schools.
I use the actual version of SUSE LINUX, version 9.2., as it is very
easy and rapid to install, good Hardware detection, simple installs via
rpm (but not always!), a lot of languages, good help pages, ...
A friend of mine recommended it, it was ok and I never took the time
trying another distro...
Knoppix tested also, its nice to see how the Hardware is detected.
Have you tried other distributions?
Except SUSE LINUX and Knoppix, no other.
And perhaps: how long do you use Linux?
About 1 year nearly, so I'm a "Newbie" :-))
thank you.
Wishing you and everybody else a very nice and pleasant new
year 2005!
Yves
pierre
My answer:
I have a dual boot XP-Mandrake 10.1 on my PC. Just bought the Mandrake
10.1 DVD, a few months ago. and i'm very satisfied with it.
I'm on Linux for about 2.5 years. and i never used an other distribution
than mandrake. And i don't plan to use a other in a close future.
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1 Jan
1 Jan
7:45 p.m.
pierre wrote:
Hello all!
I just wanted to now: How do you use Linux?
On my home PC, server and Laptop and at work.
Do you have it installed on your personal computer?
yes sure.
Wich distribution do you use? Why?
For the server: Fedora as I am used to it and can do very fast remote
maintenance.
For the laptop and PC: Suse 9.1 and 9.2 as the hardware detection is
very good and
as I do a ot of presentations and it is easy to use for newbies
No dual boot anymore. All i need works with linux even if sometimes I
have to use wine.
Have you tried other distributions?
Mandrake, Corel, EasyLinux, Debian, Slackware...
And perhaps: how long do you use Linux?
Very long something like 1995.
thank you.
pierre
My answer:
I have a dual boot XP-Mandrake 10.1 on my PC. Just bought the Mandrake
10.1 DVD, a few months ago. and i'm very satisfied with it.
I'm on Linux for about 2.5 years. and i never used an other distribution
than mandrake. And i don't plan to use a other in a close future.
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3 Jan
1:05 p.m.
On Thu, 2004-12-30 at 16:45, pierre wrote:
Hello all!
I just wanted to now: How do you use Linux?
As a desktop workstation and home computer for pretty much everything
but the webbanking (and we're working on that) - that is _including
games_!!
Do you have it installed on your personal computer?
Yes, it's a dual-boot with Win2000 though
Wich distribution do you use? Why?
Dual boot Win2k & Linux
SuSE 9.1, going towards 9.2 soon
Occasionally Knoppix, I like it.
Why? because it's there? It suits my needs and it works for me.
I've been thinking about moving towards Debian but haven't had the time
to test if that suits me. I saw/tried a Mandrake once and didn't like
how it "felt".
And I still am supposed to check the Ubuntu live CD.
Have you tried other distributions?
Yes, a few as mentionned above. But not as thoroughly as the SuSE.
And perhaps: how long do you use Linux?
Started with SuSE 7, so that must have been like 4-5 years ago.
thank you.
u welcome
pierre
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4 Jan
11:17 a.m.
pierre wrote:
Hello all!
I just wanted to now: How do you use Linux?
Office, work, laptop, PDA, ...
Do you have it installed on your personal computer?
I have at home a raid-5 server, plus a raid-5 workstation. My wife has
one also. She has also a laptop. All are running SuSE Linux.
I have also an old host running Debian.
Wich distribution do you use? Why?
First, I used Slackware, because I didn't know any other distro (back in
1994).
Then, I tried RedHat and used it at both home and work because of it's
much more user friendly (and it allowed me to have my HP printer
configured easily).
Then, because of the increasing price of RedHat, I switched to SuSE in
2000 and I'm still using SuSE at the moment.
Have you tried other distributions?
I tried Debian, Mandrake and FreeBSD, plus JDS. I also tried other OSes
at home such as Solaris and OS/2.
And perhaps: how long do you use Linux ?
Couldn't remember, but the first version I saw was on two floppies: one
for the system and one for the data. It didn't supported yet the hard
disks at that time... It should be in early 1993, I guess...
thank you.
pierre
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